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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 May 2011 14:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting posts. Here&#039;s one from a non-Geek.

So I am old enough to have experience back to the IBM XT and the Apple IIe. I have worked at PC companies and Mac Companies and have used both platforms through earliest Windows, PowerPC Mac running the non-Unix OS and so on the Snow Leopard and XP (this box). Like most companies, the clients I have had in the last 5 years have all passed on the resource hog named Vista.

When it came to buying PCs for the home and for my girls to use in college, what did I buy? All Apple (now all-Intel chip versions), from iMacs to MacBooks to iPods. My married daughter bought an iPad last year.

Why? Because I didn&#039;t want to spend my time fielding calls from my wife and daughters about their PCs not working. I don&#039;t have the time to be the Help Desk at home. I wanted a laptop that would last through ALL FOUR years of college (not likely with a PC). A MacBook is expensive - but it&#039;s way cheaper than having to buy TWO Windows PCs.

They complained at first, but now I doubt that you could get them to own a Windows box unless you gave it to them. Maybe not even then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting posts. Here&#8217;s one from a non-Geek.</p>
<p>So I am old enough to have experience back to the IBM XT and the Apple IIe. I have worked at PC companies and Mac Companies and have used both platforms through earliest Windows, PowerPC Mac running the non-Unix OS and so on the Snow Leopard and XP (this box). Like most companies, the clients I have had in the last 5 years have all passed on the resource hog named Vista.</p>
<p>When it came to buying PCs for the home and for my girls to use in college, what did I buy? All Apple (now all-Intel chip versions), from iMacs to MacBooks to iPods. My married daughter bought an iPad last year.</p>
<p>Why? Because I didn&#8217;t want to spend my time fielding calls from my wife and daughters about their PCs not working. I don&#8217;t have the time to be the Help Desk at home. I wanted a laptop that would last through ALL FOUR years of college (not likely with a PC). A MacBook is expensive &#8211; but it&#8217;s way cheaper than having to buy TWO Windows PCs.</p>
<p>They complained at first, but now I doubt that you could get them to own a Windows box unless you gave it to them. Maybe not even then.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 15:25:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I gave up using windows at home a couple of years ago. What took you so long to come to this conclusion?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I gave up using windows at home a couple of years ago. What took you so long to come to this conclusion?</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 01:22:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aaron, yeah I intended to handle the font size thing using a special login to my laptop which is pre-set that way.

Mark, you remind me of something I read online, &quot;Come to the dark side, we have cookies.&quot; :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aaron, yeah I intended to handle the font size thing using a special login to my laptop which is pre-set that way.</p>
<p>Mark, you remind me of something I read online, &#8220;Come to the dark side, we have cookies.&#8221; <img src='http://www.made2mentor.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Bertrand</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron Bertrand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 19:15:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David, virtualization is your friend here.  I typically demo stuff from a VM no matter what the base OS is - this lets me set up large fonts, high contrast colors etc., without butchering my primary work environment.  This can be pretty important when presenting to a large room because what you are comfortable with on screen is way too small for the folks at the back, and switching back and forth can be a real pain (I guess an alternative to a VM here would be to login as a different user and have different preferences, but the VM is also quite portable to different machines).

If you are a big PowerPoint guy then Keynote may not be for you but personally I like Keynote better, for a few reasons.  Mainly the built-in templates, animations etc. are fresh and not commonly seen by Windows crowds; I can control the slide deck (and see presenter notes) from my iPhone; and switching to the Windows VM to show a demo and then back to the presentation does not go back to design mode (which is what happened the last time I tried to switch between demos and PowerPoint - maybe they&#039;ve fixed that).  Plus the display on even my three-year-old MacBook Pro is unrivaled by any laptop I&#039;ve seen from any other manufacturer.

The only real hiccup I come across from time to time is that not all rooms / projectors are set up for Mac display output... which means I carry a little pouch with several display adapters and dongles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, virtualization is your friend here.  I typically demo stuff from a VM no matter what the base OS is &#8211; this lets me set up large fonts, high contrast colors etc., without butchering my primary work environment.  This can be pretty important when presenting to a large room because what you are comfortable with on screen is way too small for the folks at the back, and switching back and forth can be a real pain (I guess an alternative to a VM here would be to login as a different user and have different preferences, but the VM is also quite portable to different machines).</p>
<p>If you are a big PowerPoint guy then Keynote may not be for you but personally I like Keynote better, for a few reasons.  Mainly the built-in templates, animations etc. are fresh and not commonly seen by Windows crowds; I can control the slide deck (and see presenter notes) from my iPhone; and switching to the Windows VM to show a demo and then back to the presentation does not go back to design mode (which is what happened the last time I tried to switch between demos and PowerPoint &#8211; maybe they&#8217;ve fixed that).  Plus the display on even my three-year-old MacBook Pro is unrivaled by any laptop I&#8217;ve seen from any other manufacturer.</p>
<p>The only real hiccup I come across from time to time is that not all rooms / projectors are set up for Mac display output&#8230; which means I carry a little pouch with several display adapters and dongles.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Nosal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Nosal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 12:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David

Jump shark, come over to the white side Luke and virtualize the 7</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David</p>
<p>Jump shark, come over to the white side Luke and virtualize the 7</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 11:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the primary reasons I remain a PC is that I intend to do presentations, both in video form and at user groups and such. I just thought it would be easier running Microsoft products for demos on their platform.

Also, I didn&#039;t want to have to take time to learn a whole new platform either. However, my experience with Windows 7 thus far, though mostly rewarding has been like learning everything over again anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the primary reasons I remain a PC is that I intend to do presentations, both in video form and at user groups and such. I just thought it would be easier running Microsoft products for demos on their platform.</p>
<p>Also, I didn&#8217;t want to have to take time to learn a whole new platform either. However, my experience with Windows 7 thus far, though mostly rewarding has been like learning everything over again anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Bertrand</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron Bertrand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 21:04:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I agree with what Brent has stated, I did have an incident last year where the &quot;Genius&quot; bar failed miserably.  

Essentially he told me that my video driver issue on a MacBook Pro (for which there was already a published KB article stating free repair) was due to my own negligence, and that replacing the graphics board and possibly the whole logic board would run me $1,500+.  I&#039;m glad I walked out, calmed down, and called Apple.

It wouldn&#039;t have been that hard for him to actually listen to what I was telling him about the article on the Apple web site, but one look at the outside of my laptop and he had already determined that this couldn&#039;t possibly be a defective graphics card but must have been my own carelessness.

Apple ended up taking care of me with superior service, and I had the laptop back in hand within 3 business days at absolutely no cost to me, but that experience in the store left me feeling like I&#039;d have better luck picking up the phone than catching one of these guys on a bad day.  

Anyway, all that said, yes, the Apple hardware is more expensive, but I find that what it saves me in the long run (time, how many times I would replace it, enjoyment / quality) is more than worth it.  For similar reasons I like German engineered cars, Tag Heuer watches, etc.  

And even with the experience I had at the store, I believe in the company as a whole and have faith that it was an anomaly and that it will be corrected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I agree with what Brent has stated, I did have an incident last year where the &#8220;Genius&#8221; bar failed miserably.  </p>
<p>Essentially he told me that my video driver issue on a MacBook Pro (for which there was already a published KB article stating free repair) was due to my own negligence, and that replacing the graphics board and possibly the whole logic board would run me $1,500+.  I&#8217;m glad I walked out, calmed down, and called Apple.</p>
<p>It wouldn&#8217;t have been that hard for him to actually listen to what I was telling him about the article on the Apple web site, but one look at the outside of my laptop and he had already determined that this couldn&#8217;t possibly be a defective graphics card but must have been my own carelessness.</p>
<p>Apple ended up taking care of me with superior service, and I had the laptop back in hand within 3 business days at absolutely no cost to me, but that experience in the store left me feeling like I&#8217;d have better luck picking up the phone than catching one of these guys on a bad day.  </p>
<p>Anyway, all that said, yes, the Apple hardware is more expensive, but I find that what it saves me in the long run (time, how many times I would replace it, enjoyment / quality) is more than worth it.  For similar reasons I like German engineered cars, Tag Heuer watches, etc.  </p>
<p>And even with the experience I had at the store, I believe in the company as a whole and have faith that it was an anomaly and that it will be corrected.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Nosal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Nosal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 20:52:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While we are a windows Co at present. I use my MacBook Pro w/virtual windows to do my off-line M2M report custom work, test new Windows/M2M/SQL releases. The snapshot of a virtual computer build allows me to take risk I normally wouldn&#039;t consider (in all fairness this is a virtual plus not a Mac plus).

RDP on Mac is a snap, Vnc works ok.
OSX &amp; Graphics are like peanutbutter and jelly, Windows well not so much.

That&#039;s just the GUI, I haven&#039;t made the dive but from what I&#039;ve read TCL on the Mac is also impressive.

I looked at Windows7 and it is a step in the right direction, but then it also seems to be a OSX (GUI) knock off.

That being said I remember my Novell LAN being somewhat bullet proof, Market share still speaks loud.

Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While we are a windows Co at present. I use my MacBook Pro w/virtual windows to do my off-line M2M report custom work, test new Windows/M2M/SQL releases. The snapshot of a virtual computer build allows me to take risk I normally wouldn&#8217;t consider (in all fairness this is a virtual plus not a Mac plus).</p>
<p>RDP on Mac is a snap, Vnc works ok.<br />
OSX &amp; Graphics are like peanutbutter and jelly, Windows well not so much.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s just the GUI, I haven&#8217;t made the dive but from what I&#8217;ve read TCL on the Mac is also impressive.</p>
<p>I looked at Windows7 and it is a step in the right direction, but then it also seems to be a OSX (GUI) knock off.</p>
<p>That being said I remember my Novell LAN being somewhat bullet proof, Market share still speaks loud.</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Brent Ozar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brent Ozar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 19:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For me it comes down to a cost thing.  How much is my time worth?  I figured out years ago that if I can just save a couple of days of problems, then the Mac pays for itself.

I really, really love the ability to just walk into an Apple store, go to the Genius Bar, and get my computer fixed.  I&#039;ve had a few problems over the years, and the Genius Bar experience has made my day every time.  There&#039;s no finger-pointing between hardware and software vendors, no endless on-hold music, no shipping things around.  I just hand it to the Genius, he fixes it, and he calls me when it&#039;s done.  To me, that&#039;s worth every penny of the Mac tax.  (And make no mistake, the Apple gear you WANT costs more.  They have cheap stuff, but it won&#039;t be the one you buy.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For me it comes down to a cost thing.  How much is my time worth?  I figured out years ago that if I can just save a couple of days of problems, then the Mac pays for itself.</p>
<p>I really, really love the ability to just walk into an Apple store, go to the Genius Bar, and get my computer fixed.  I&#8217;ve had a few problems over the years, and the Genius Bar experience has made my day every time.  There&#8217;s no finger-pointing between hardware and software vendors, no endless on-hold music, no shipping things around.  I just hand it to the Genius, he fixes it, and he calls me when it&#8217;s done.  To me, that&#8217;s worth every penny of the Mac tax.  (And make no mistake, the Apple gear you WANT costs more.  They have cheap stuff, but it won&#8217;t be the one you buy.)</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Duffin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Duffin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 13:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David,
Very well said.  I have a user up on Win7-64 running CAD/CAM and it is working well.  However, I am still mystified by the choices MS makes when it comes to OS layout/look and feel.  I have their &quot;God Mode&quot; icon on my desktop.  This is an undocumented (I think) feature whereby practically all user level settings for the OS can be tweaked.  I assume it was created so the testers/developers did not have to hunt all over to find various option settings.  So, they create a simple way for the MS and other technical people to access settings and leave the average user with a re-hashed &quot;good luck finding it&quot; interface.  Don&#039;t they use focus groups?  It still amazes me, really, that a company with the resources and talent MS has can&#039;t do a better job of making their OS easier for the average user.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,<br />
Very well said.  I have a user up on Win7-64 running CAD/CAM and it is working well.  However, I am still mystified by the choices MS makes when it comes to OS layout/look and feel.  I have their &#8220;God Mode&#8221; icon on my desktop.  This is an undocumented (I think) feature whereby practically all user level settings for the OS can be tweaked.  I assume it was created so the testers/developers did not have to hunt all over to find various option settings.  So, they create a simple way for the MS and other technical people to access settings and leave the average user with a re-hashed &#8220;good luck finding it&#8221; interface.  Don&#8217;t they use focus groups?  It still amazes me, really, that a company with the resources and talent MS has can&#8217;t do a better job of making their OS easier for the average user.</p>
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